Sunday, January 13, 2013

Baseball's Hall of Fame


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Illustrations: Chuck Comisky, owner of the White Sox and revered member of Baseball's Hall of Fame.

I have to start out by saying that I can't imagine this being translated into any other language, and this leaves out some readers, and will be fairly unintelligible to those who live in other countries whose language is English, former British colonies and prison camps such as Australia and Ireland. So, half the audience is gone. Not only does it use words peculiar to America, but is about a uniquely American subject, baseball, that has a reverence here shared only in Japan where they, in the words of Casey Stengel, try to “play baseball with short fingers.”



Before I tell you about it, let me relate what I heard recently. Someone said he got the Mayan 2013 calendar in the mail – 13 sheets of blank paper. So, onward!



It also proves the point that Americans have no memory at all and reinforces Gore Vidal's appellation of The United States of Amnesia.



The point is that the baseball writers met this year to decide who gets elected to the Cooperstown Hall of Fame, enshrined in the memory of this wonderful and pure American pass-time. A baseball writer is someone who, by definition, has no sense of history, no sense of the facts, and never any any ability to throw or hit a baseball properly and who probably got the shit beaten outtake themselves by people who could play baseball as they were growing up as kids. If they ever did play, they were the kid who always got picked last.



So we need to look at this pure sport, the one the sportwriters decided no body was worthy of mention, including people like Barry Bonds with more home runs in his lifetime than anyone else, ever, and Roger Clemens, a fat slob who, nevertheless, knew how to throw a baseball better and faster than almost anyone else of his time. Sammy Soza and a few other were also excluded. Why were they excluded? Because they may have used steroids! How evil! In this pure sport with such a hallowed history of purity and honesty, we certainly can not allow someone who may have used drugs to play.



Lets look at that history.



We needn't go all the way back except to mention that there is one Baseball record that will never be broken: Cy Young's 511 lifetime wins. Think of it, it would take 25 years of winning 20 games and even then you would be 11 short.



We can start with the first big scandal, the so-called “Black-Sox” of 1919 who threw the world series. Several players were banned from the game for life, including the famous “Shoeless” Joe Jackson (who did wear shoes) who hardly knew what the hell was going on. Well, yes, they did throw the series, but the story of what really happened is hardly known – even the movie “9 Men Out” that has the great and late Studs Terkel in it tells only most of the story.



The White Sox were owned by big Chuck Comisky who also owned most of the south side of Chicago and its judicial system. This mobster who was ahead of his time had a contract with the star pitcher Ed Cicotte that had a bonus clause of $10,000 in it if he won 30 games. When he won his 29th, sometime in late July or early August, Comisky called the manager in and told him not to let him start until the season was over. He did not want to pay the money owed to a peasant and indentured servant. In fact, he cheated every single player on his team, a team that was by far the best of its time.  I should also point out that Comisky did play professional baseball himself, unlike our current owners.



One of those players had a brain, a first baseman by the name of Hal Chase. Cicotte, since he was a pitcher also had a brain. The two of them worked out a scheme involving a few of the other players to get money clearly due them from Comisky but get it from gamblers from Cincinnati, a town best known for WKRP, a television show of the early 80s. There was no proof against them, and one, Joe Jackson, was one of the players with the highest batting average during the series. Some sports writer made up a story about a poor little orphan chile who spoke up as Joe left the court room, “Say it isn't so, Joe.” Well, the truth is, Joe was taken out of the building trough a back door, no one knew he was leaving, it was midnight, and the story was pure bullshit, like most crap about the game.



Chuck Comisky and his fellow owners had all the morality of the Board of Directors of AIG who are suing the Government for bailing them out with billions of our dollars and manners that would make his successor, Al Capone, look like a cross between Cary Grant and a choir boy.



They had a slavish old man called “Mountain” Landis, a stick of a coward, to “save the games” as commissioner, banished them for life. So how do we hear about this?



Did you know that the announcers were owned by the owners of the team? Remember Harry Cary who used to guzzle beer like water from a wine glass would shout and cry all along and was barely kept aware of what was going on by another announcer named Jack Buck? The team was owned by Auggie Busch, a gnome like creature straight from the first act of Wagner's Das Reingold, and a pure fascist. The family fired Harry after he felt up the wife of one of the Busch family members and he went on St. Louis television drinking from a can of Schlitz. He later moved to Chicago, the Sox and then the Cubs.



There were time when no body was elected to this venerable Hall of Fame, like 1949 and 1950, but those years, well, take it as a fact that there were no worthwhile candidates. Just look back at some of the most hapless Cubs teams of the 50s, the team the songwriter Steve Goodman (The City of New Orleans) called the “doormat of the National league”. Those teams were owned by Wrigley who sold chewing gum. They had a sportscaster named Harry Creighton who sold Hamms beer and drank it on camera and by the seventh inning of a double header could not even tell what city he was in.



The only sportscaster of any reputation was Bob Elson of the Chicago White Sox who was most known for reminiscing about Luke Appling during the 60s and who had no idea of what the score was at any given time, or at least kept it secret from radio listeners. He is most remembered by imitations of him by Bob Ueker, yes, the announcer in the movie “Major League,” who imitates Elson in the movie several times.



Yes, this is the game we know as the pure symbol of what it is to be an American. The great Babe Ruth hit more home runs in one season than the rest of the league combined, and drank more beer had laid more women in one night than the rest of the team in a year. Ah yes, the “Babe”!


Now for a long time, the “Babe” held the single season record of 60 home runs. When Roger Maris broke that record, the season had been lengthened, out of greed, to 161 games. The commissioner thus put an asterisk after Maris' record recording that fact. It was dropped eventually. (The Commissioner could use an asterisk, I suppose, and thus molify some of the purists in the case of the “steroid era”.)



Maris, meanwhile, was traded away by the same Yankees to the Kansas City Athletics, now in Oakland. The teams he now played against did not know of his physical problems and thus threw curve balls at him because it is much easier to hit a home run off a fasst ball than a curve. The fact was, the curve, because it is slower, was about the only pitch he could hit at the time.



And who can forget Ty Cobb? Most stolen bases, right? And the biggest, most vile racist ever to play the game, a guy who used to file his spikes sharp to cut up players on the other team as he slid into them. He was the real Georgia Peach if ever there was one. I am not sure, but I doubt whether in his entire career he hit as many home runs as Babe Ruth did in any one of many seasons.



Pete Rose is a person you probably wouldn't like, even if he was on your team, but he did set lifetime records. He was banned from baseball for life because he gambled. Heavens help us! An evil gambler in this pure pass time.



Pitchers, of course, account for most of the imagination and brains on a team. Even the “Babe,” considered “colorful,” did not get that way because he played right field. Nope, he started as a pitcher and held some pitching records that lasted for decades.



“Lefty” Gomez, undoubtedly the best hitter on his team, is in the Hall of fame as a pitcher. He is also known for not showing up at practice until some alligator wrestler in Florida (spring training) showed up at the ballpark complaining that Lefty was stealing his act, wrestling alligators himself and drawing bigger crowds.



Jim Bouton wrote a book called Ball Four revealing what his teammates, the New York Yankees, were really like. How they reacted can be inferred by the title of his second book, I'm Glad You Didn't Take it Personally, or words to that effect.



The great Bill “Spaceman Lee,” who called the strike-zone “Cartesian Co-Ordinates,” used to negotiate his contract with the owner of the Red Sox while sitting in the Zen Lotus position.



“Dizzy” Dean used to call newspapers and give their writers “exclusive” leaks, all different on the same story. “That way, they all got their scoop,” sayz Diz. He'd predict how many games he and his brother would win and then do it, having to win 31 games one year to make it come true. When he pitched against Babe Ruth, he threw very easy pitches to hit. When asked why, he said he had never seen the great Babe Ruth hit a home run.



Not all the players with intelligence and imagination were pitchers, but it certainly was a big factor in their success.


Baseball was a game that was allowed to use a “reserve clause” that keep the players as indentured servants for life! They could either accept the owners' terms or quit the game. That was it.



When the Supreme Court ruled against them for the first time during the 80s, the 1980s, “Catfish Hunter” was immediately given a salary of one million dollars. Before that, it was peanuts. That was the first time I thought maybe I should have signed the contract, but time would not have been on my side anyway.



Today, the media still remains in the pocket of the owners, thugs who blackmail cities with threats to relocate and are billionaires. The press has fans upset at the players when they strike (after all, some make millions), but never think about how much money someone who can afford to pay those salaries has.



Wrigley of the Cubs used to keep a player until he got too good to pay and then sell him, usually to the St. Louis Cardinals, for a profit.



So, Cooperstown, Hall of Fame, know it for what it is, not what some pimply simpleton would have you believe.



Don't get me started on American Football, the game of brain injuries for profit.
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Saturday, January 12, 2013

Attempt to Smear Russia Using Syria -- Your Tax Dollars at Work






http://nsnbc.me/2013/01/12/syria-false-flag-designed-to-discredit-russia/

Syria: False Flag designed to discredit Russia.

Christof Lehmann (nsnbc). According to an unnamed Russian military diplomat some of the allies behind the “Syrian Opposition” are in the planning stages of a false flag operation which has been designed for the purpose of discrediting the reputation of Russia as an honest broker in the Syrian crisis.

On Friday, 11 January 2012 the Russian military diplomat stated that the involved parties are in the process of recruiting Russian, Ukrainian and Belorussian mercenaries who are supposed to take part in the operation.
The mercenaries would then be deployed to locations in Turkey and Jordan where large-scale scenes, supposed to represent destroyed Syrian villages have long been built for training purposes.
The false Russian mercenaries would then engage in mock fire fights with supposed fighters of the Free Syrian Army and be captured. The captured “actors” are then supposed to be interviewed on camera while admitting that they had been deployed from Russia to “support the Syrian Regime”.
The supposed “confessions of the Russian mercenaries” would then be supposed to be aired on international mainstream media such as CNN, BBC, Al Jazeera and others with the intention to discredit Russia and its diplomatic role with regard to solving the crisis in Syria.
The planned false flag should create the backdrop for a diplomatic row and justify regime change and eventually a military intervention by NATO forces. The false flag is most likely also designed to discredit eventual initiatives toward the deployment of UN Blue Chapcas under supervision of the CSTO.
Christof Lehmann – 12.01.2013 – nsnbc
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Friday, January 04, 2013

Honoring Carlos Latuff


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AN AWARD FOR CARLOS LATUFF!







Illustration: A cartoon courtesy of Carlos Latuff on the obvious which is what makes it so funny!




Perhaps the best political cartoonist, certainly the best on international affairs, is Carlos Latuff. He has always been on the side of the persecuted, the oppressed, the victims. It may be for this reason that he has been awarded as the Third Most Anti-Semitic in the world. The list makes no mention of Noam Chomsky or any other prominent critics of the oppression of Zionism against the Palestinians, but does place Carlos as number three, just below the Muslim Brotherhood and the Iranian regime. Hm, so we have the head of Egypt, the head of Iran, and then Calos Latuff!

I am telling you, I am not making this up. Here is the complete top ten:

Courtesy of the Simon Weisenthal Center:

1. Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood.

2. The Iranian Regime.

3. Brazilian Cartoonist, Carlos LaTuff.

4. The Soccer Fans of Europe.

5. "Svoboda", the Ukraine's Freedom Party

6. Greece's "Golden Dawn" Party.

7. Hungary's Far-Right party, "Jobbik"

8. Norway, for honoring promoter of Anti-Semitic conspiracy theories.

9. Jacob Augstein, Anti-Semitic Media Hack.

    10. 'Calypso Louie' Farrakhan, for ratcheting up his Jew hatin' in 2012.

He beat out all the soccer (football) fans of Europe! That constitutes millions! I have never counted them, but I'm sure there are over several million.

He beat out the Ukranian Freedom Party. Who? Say what?



In fact, the only other name I recognize easily is Louis Farrakhan, and I really don't have much to say about him. I do think he is funny at times and that his obsession with numerology was weird when I heard it, but never saw him as a threat.



Anyway, we here at the Absurd Times just want to take this opportunity to congratulate Carlos and his recognition!



Being on this list is akin to being on Nixon's enemies list – many felt mortified at being left out.



Thank you Carlos for fighting the good fight!
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Thursday, January 03, 2013

On NSNBC -- Actual Facts in the Media



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    The following is sent out by one of the few truly independent publications left in this country.  Yes, we have freedom of speech, but money seems to make all the difference.  This is actually one of the few places left that prints facts suppressed by the Corporate Media.

    Christof Lehmann is a serious and scrupulous publisher and deserves all the support you can give him.  And I mean, he is serious, even though I do know that he has a sense of humor.

    He is so good that Wordpress, I take it, censored his blog.  This is amazing.  It was over Gaddafi and Libya.  I did not know of this publication at the time, so I used sources on social media that were trustworthy to learn facts.

    Now here at the Absurd Times we have a difficult time remaining serious.  From time to time, we do express our outrage, publish facts that are not known, and often try to anger people.

    The trouble is, the people we would like to get angry see through all that and find it funny.  In fact, one way you can tell that we often report the truth is that it is funny, even absurd, because that is the type of world we are living in -- Absurd!

    We have gotten some pretty ridiculous comments, but they fade away.  Really, it was our goal to get banned, blackballed, but we just never generated the audience.

    Until one day, we published our article Gaddafi and History.   Nothing happened here at blogspot.com, but the article about Gaddafi *was* attacked by Facebook as offensive.  That made our day.  It really did.  We tried to repost it, and got a note that there have been objections because it was offensive.  We were thrilled!  We even wrote about it, thanking those who were so outraged at those facts for objecting!  And then we republished it on Facebook from another direction.  No reaction.  Nada.  People these days just do not have the courage of their misconceptions!

    Well, anyway, here is the announcement of the new location along with the appropriate links.

    And we wish them the greatest of success! 

  



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Monday, December 31, 2012

Fascism and Meinhof











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This is an excellent rendition of the problem of fascism everywhere, not just in Germany.  The word “Nazi” has become a sort of synecdoche, a rhetorical device where the part stands for the whole.  The “Whitehouse,” is another example where “Whitehouse” stands for all of the administrative functions of the United States government.  The word “Nazi,” as it is usually used, means “fascist,” although sometimes it does not, just as the Whitehouse sometimes just means the architectural structure.

          Another note is also needed on translation.  The article is presented in German, clear German (which could be mistranslated as “German clarity” by someone not looking closely enough).  So, the reader may find a passage or word here or there that is clearly in error.  Even so, the mistakes are minor and easily passed by.  As Nietzsche once said, “Neither the best nor worst in a passage or book can not be translated.”  (A discussion on Nietzsche and translation, specifically with respect to his “God is dead,” remark can be found elsewhere on this publication with my translations and some others.)  At any rate, at one point the word “I” is used in this translation where “one” may be what was intended.  In any case,  to dwell on it is a meaningless waste of time and I mention that here only to forestall any questions on the subject.

New post on nsnbc

Ulrike Meinhof über die Kriegsverbrechen in Dresden – So aktuel wie je zuvor.

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Ulrike Meinhof über die Kriegsverbrechen in Dresden - So aktuel wie je zuvor.  Vietnam nach Syrien, endloser Krieg - Dieser Artikel wurde von Ulrike Marie Meinhof während ihrer Zeit als Chefredakteur der Zeitschrift "konkret" zwischen 1959 und 1969 geschrieben. Später griff Ulrike Meinhof zu den Waffen gegen die faschistischen Machtstrukturen der Nachkriegszeit in einem Westdeutschland, in [...]
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Occupy Cyberspace





IT HAS BEEN TOO LONG SINCE WE HEARD FROM THIS:






New post on Occupy Cyberspace - American Autumn

“I Always Feel like Sombody’s Watching Me” – Secret FBI Documents prove Occupy Infiltration and Surveilance

by TooDamnEZ
It really isn't a surprise to any of us who participate in the Occupy Movement, that the many Occupy groups across the nation and the world, would be infiltrated by the powers that be at some point.  It was expected, and in many cases prepared for.  What is a surprise is the collective of agencies both public and private in the United States and abroad, that feared the Occupy Movement, and worked together in an effort to conduct surveillance it's operations and in some cases, attempted to thwart and/or subvert their plans.
Once secret documents reveal the FBI monitored Occupy Wall Street from its earliest days and treated the nonviolent movement as a potential terrorist threat. Internal government records show Occupy was treated as a potential threat when organizing first began in August of 2011.
Counterterrorism agents were used to track Occupy activities, despite the internal acknowledgment that the movement opposed violent tactics. The monitoring expanded across the country as Occupy grew into a national movement, with FBI agents sharing information with businesses, local police agencies and universities. We're joined by Mara Verheyden-Hilliard of The Partnership for Civil Justice Fund, which obtained the FBI documents through the Freedom of Information Act. "We can see decade after decade with each social justice movement that the FBI conducts itself in the same role over and over again, which is to act really as the secret police of the establishment against the people," Verheyden-Hilliard says.
A full transcript of the discussion after the jump.
JUAN GONZÁLEZ: We begin with a look at newly revealed documents that show the FBI monitored theOccupy Wall Street movement from its earliest days last year. Internal government records show Occupy was treated as a potential terrorism threat when organizing first began in August of 2011. Counterterrorism agents were used to track Occupy activities despite the internal acknowledgment that the movement opposed violent tactics. The monitoring expanded across the country as Occupy grew into a national movement, with FBI agents sharing information with businesses, local police agencies and universities. One FBI memo warned that Occupy could prove to be an "outlet" through which activists could exploit "general government dissatisfaction." Although the documents provide no clear evidence of government infiltration, they do suggest the FBI used information from local law enforcement agencies gathered by someone observing Occupy activists on the ground.
AMY GOODMAN: The heavily redacted FBI records were obtained by the Partnership for Civil Justice Fund through a Freedom of Information Act request. We invited the FBI to join us on the program to discuss the latest revelations, but they declined. Instead, spokesperson Paul Bresson issued a written statement saying, quote, "The FBI cautions against drawing conclusions from redacted FOIA documents." He also said, quote, "It is law enforcement’s duty to use all lawful tools to protect their communities."
Well, for more, we’re joined by Mara Verheyden-Hilliard. She’s executive director of the Partnership for Civil Justice Fund, which obtained the documents showing how the FBI monitored Occupy Wall Street, joining us now from Washington, D.C.
Welcome to Democracy Now!, Mara. Tell us what you found. We’ve got time. Tell us what you found in these documents.
MARA VERHEYDEN-HILLIARD: Well, the documents, as you stated, show that the FBI and American intelligence agencies were monitoring and reporting on Occupy Wall Street before the first tent even went up in Zuccotti Park. The documents that we have been able to obtain show the FBI communicating with the New York Stock Exchange in August of 2011 about the upcoming Occupy demonstrations, about plans for the protests. It shows them meeting with or communicating with private businesses. And throughout the materials, there is repeated evidence of the FBI and Department of Homeland Security, American intelligence agencies really working as a private intelligence arm for corporations, for Wall Street, for the banks, for the very entities that people were rising up to protest against.
AMY GOODMAN: Interesting that they came out on Friday before Christmas?
MARA VERHEYDEN-HILLIARD: Well, we certainly thought so. We have been trying to get these documents for more than a year. The Partnership for Civil Justice Fund filed original FOIA demands with federal agencies as well as municipalities and police departments all around the United States, and we did so in the fall of 2011, when there was evidence of a coordinated crackdown on Occupy all around the country. And we wanted to get the documents out to be able to show what the government was doing. And the FBI has stonewalled for a year, and we were finally able to get these documents. They came to us, you know, as you said, the Friday before the holiday weekend. And we wanted to get them out to people right away. We assumed the FBI was expecting that, you know, it would just get buried. And instead, I have to say, it was, you know, great to be able to get these up and have people around the United States be able to see what the FBI is doing.
JUAN GONZÁLEZ: And Mara, what about the issue of actual infiltrators, either paid or sent in by law enforcement or the FBI into the Occupy groups?
MARA VERHEYDEN-HILLIARD: Well, the documents are heavily redacted. There is a lot of material that, on the pages themselves, we cannot see. And the documents also, in terms of the breadth and scope of the production, we believe that there is a lot more that’s being withheld. Even when you go through the text of the documents, you can see that there’s a lot more in terms of meetings and memos that must exist. And we are filing an appeal to demand and fight for more material to be released.
But even in these heavily redacted documents, you can see the FBI using at least private entities as a proxy force for what appears to be infiltration. There is—there are documents that show the Federal Reserve in Richmond was reporting to the FBI, working with the Capitol Police in Virginia, and reporting and giving updates on planning meetings and discussions within the Occupy movement. That would appear, minimally, that they were sending undercovers, if not infiltrators, into those meetings.
There is another document that shows the FBI meeting with private port security officers in Anchorage, Alaska, in advance of the West Coast port actions. And that document has that private port security person saying that they are going to go attend a planning meeting of the demonstrators, and they’re reporting back to the FBI. They coordinate with the FBI. The FBI says that they will put them in touch with someone from the Anchorage Police Department, that that person should take the police department officer with him, as well.
And so these documents also show the intense coordination both with private businesses, with Wall Street, with the banks, and with state police departments and local police departments around the country.
AMY GOODMAN: We’re going to go to break and then go specifically to several of the documents you got under the Freedom of Information Act. We’re talking to Mara Verheyden-Hilliard, who is the executive director of the Partnership for Civil Justice Fund, which got the documents under the Freedom of Information Act, has been trying to get them over the past few years. This is Democracy Now! Back in a minute.
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AMY GOODMAN: We go back right now to Mara Verheyden-Hilliard, executive director of the Partnership for Civil Justice Fund, which released documents showing how the FBI monitored Occupy Wall Street. I want to turn right now to one of the documents. I’m Amy Goodman, with Juan González. I want to turn to part of a memo dated October 19, 2011, from the FBI’s field office in Jacksonville, Florida. The document is titled, quote, "Domain Program Management Domestic Terrorism." It shows the FBI was concerned the Occupy movement, quote, "may provide an outlet for a lone offender exploiting the movement for reasons associated with general government dissatisfaction." In particular, the document cites certain areas of concern in Central Florida where, quote, "some of the highest unemployment rates in Florida continue to exist." Mara, can you talk about this idea of a lone offender threat?
MARA VERHEYDEN-HILLIARD: I think that that is very much a measure of box checking by the FBI. I don’t believe—and their documents show that they did not believe—that this was a movement that posed a threat of violence. Now, throughout the documents, they’re using their counterterrorism resources and counterterrorism authorities, they are defining the movement as domestic terrorism and potentially criminal in nature. But the fact is, they also throughout the documents say that they know that this is a peaceful movement, that it is organized on a basis of nonviolence. And by that logic, of course, you can investigate everyone in every activity in the United States on the grounds that someone might do something sometime. And, in fact, think about the tea party rallies. The tea party was having rallies all around the United States where their members come carrying weapons—they’re open carrying—including at events where the president of the United States was speaking. But the FBI is turning its attention to this movement.
And when they reference the locations in Florida, I think that’s actually a political analysis, a recognition that this is a movement whose time has come. And whether it’s in hibernation right now, it is based on an organic reality of the economic situation in the United States. And the FBI is referencing the high level of unemployment, the needs that people have, and it’s a recognition, too, of the dynamism and the dynamic nature of the people of the United States, the people all over the world, when they organize and come together. That’s the threat that we believe the FBI and Department of Homeland Security are truly focused on, not a threat of violence.
JUAN GONZÁLEZ: Well, Mara, I’d like to turn to another document from the FBI’s New York field office that shows FBI personnel met with representatives of the New York Stock Exchange on August 19th, 2011, to discuss the Occupy Wall Street protests that were set for the following month. The memo describes the meeting, saying, quote, "Discussed was the planned anarchist protest titled 'Occupy Wall Street,' scheduled for September 17, 2011. The protest appears on anarchist websites and social network pages on the internet." The memo goes on to say, quote, "Numerous incidents have occurred in the past which show attempts by anarchist groups to disrupt, influence, and or shut down normal business operations of financial districts." Talk about these meetings between law enforcement and the parties targeted by Occupy Wall Street, Mara.
MARA VERHEYDEN-HILLIARD: Well, again, the documents throughout show that they know that the movement is nonviolent. And the FBI routinely uses reference to anarchists and demonizing anarchists or a political ideology as if it’s an—identical with criminal behavior. And so, they often reference anarchists in these materials and other materials that we’ve gotten over the years in our litigation, even where they know there are not acts of violence. And we also know how frequently the police themselves, you know, mask up and infiltrate demonstrate demonstrations, posing themselves as the anarchists that they’re always saying that they’re worried about.
But those documents again show the FBI working with private industry, with the banks. They’re not bringing evidence of real threats of violence. They’re talking about political uprising. And I think we can be sure that if they had evidence of criminal activity, they wouldn’t have redacted it. They would have been happy to produce that. But they don’t have it. And over and over again, you have the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security basically conducting themselves in a form of police statism in the United States against the people of the United States.
JUAN GONZÁLEZ: And what about the historical precedent here, the history of the FBI’s involvement in monitoring, surveiling and sometimes disrupting peaceful, dissident activity in the United States?
MARA VERHEYDEN-HILLIARD: Well, exactly. This is just part and parcel of the long history of the FBI. And this is not the first incident, it is not going to be the last, and it’s not the worst, to be honest. We all know that. It’s not—you know, the FBI has a long history — ’50s, ’60s, ’70s — of mass surveillance, of targeting of people based on political ideology, of efforts to disrupt the movements for social justice, for efforts to shut down black liberation movement, the antiwar movement. And in the ’70s, of course, there were these great revelations about the abuses of the FBI, of the CIA, of other security agencies. And there were the Church Committee hearings. There were supposedly protections put in place. But we can see, you know, decade after decade, with each social justice movement, that the FBI conducts itself in the same role over and over again, which is to act really as the secret police of the establishment against the people.
AMY GOODMAN: Mara, a document from October 2011 indicates law enforcement from the Federal Reserve in Richmond, Virginia, was giving the FBI information about Occupy Wall Street. It says the Federal Reserve source contacted the FBI to, quote, "pass on information regarding the movement known as occupy Wall Street." Interestingly, the memo also notes that Occupy Wall Street, quote, "has been known to be peaceful but demonstrations across the United States show that other groups have joined in such as Day Of Rage and the October 2011 Movement," it says. The memo describes repeated communications to, quote, "pass on updates of the events and decisions made during the small rallies." Can you talk about the significance of this document, Mara?
MARA VERHEYDEN-HILLIARD: That document is one of the ones that would indicate the FBI was minimally using private entities or local police departments as proxy forces for infiltration, for undercover operations, to monitor, surveil, collect information. And that document, too, and the series of documents also showed the breadth of the reporting. So you have individuals on the ground with the Federal Reserve Bank, with the state police agencies, apparently monitoring and collecting information on the planning discussions of protests in Richmond, reporting them into the FBI and also reporting them into state fusion centers and to other intelligence and domestic terrorism data centers.
Now, the data warehousing in the United States, the mass collection of data on the people of the United States, is of great concern. And you can see, through these documents, the FBI is collecting a lot of information on completely lawful activities, on the activities of people who are not alleged to have committed criminal acts, are not planning criminal acts, who actually are engaged in cherished, First Amendment-protected activities. And yet, it’s being collected under the imprimatur of domestic terrorism or criminal activity and being entered into these mass databases, which have a huge level of dissemination and access and which are virtually unregulated.
AMY GOODMAN: We want to thank you very much, Mara Verheyden-Hilliard, for joining us, executive director of the Partnership for Civil Justice Fund, which released the documents showing how the FBI monitored Occupy Wall Street. This is Democracy Now!, democracynow.org, The War and Peace Report.
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