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Tuesday, January 17, 2023

Triumph of Abssurdity

           THE ABSURD TIMES

This is for those who will not believe that such B.S. actually happened.


And this is for the somewhat more educated who understand the absurdity of the moment.

 Absurdity Triumphs for Now

by

Honest Charlie



We have reached a new period of Absurdity and I freely admit that I am puzzled as to how to report it. I put a meme up just to help, if it does. I’ll try to say a bit about the absurdity now. I believe it was Voltairei who said that life is a tragedy to those who feel and a comedy to those who think. I do not particularly disposed to feeling these days, in face it is far too much effort, and so I finally find it amusing, but hardly a real comedy. Tacked on at the end is a discussion of religion for the new readers and for the Christian Nationalists.


Let us start with one of the more disgusting and vile, a congressman from Ohio. He not only says there in no difference between the Biden 10 pages or more that were returned as soon as noticed and the 30 to 50 boxes of papers down in Trump’s property, many marked TOP SECRET and which he has called MINE! Now, there are probably many right-wing fools and cowards who will believe him and buy into this “conspiracy” and “dauble standard”. I mean it. They actually equate the two. Now when Jimmie Carter wrote his WHITE HOUSE DIARY, he was careful to write it in the East Wing (officially his home at the time) so that it could not be claimed as government property. I can not even imagine him taking any government property home to Georgia, but that may be because at the time I would not take anything to Georgia.


Well, I can not help but move away from that ass from Ohio. He reminds me much of Dennis Hastert. Hastert was a (pardon the expression) Republican, an ex-wrestling coach, and liked to play with college-age naked wrestlers. He left politics as soon as the secret came out. Now, Jim Jordan is of that same party, and ex-wrestling coach, and there were remarks about how he liked to stare at naked wrestlers in the shower while he was a coach. The University had other problems with sex exploits, so this never went anywhere, but I do wonder what is going to happen every time he strips off his jacket in congress. But, he does shave – himself. I really do not want to spend any more time on him.


But we can not simply point to one poser the discuss this morass of muck. Another, postures himself as a self-made man, and has been noted several time, is rather a self made-up man, usually known as George Santos. He actually represents everything that the term “Republican” stands for, as well as several other politicians. It is overwhelming to remember and list all of his fabrications, but one was quite clear as somebody has a video of it. Santos was being interviewed and announced that he attended Baruch College on a Volleyball Scholarship. The host announced that he also went to that College, but did not pursue the topic. He says he was Magna cum laude, I believe, but it doesn’t matter as he never went to college.


He proclaimed that his grandmother was a holocaust surviver and felt that he was therefore Jew-ish. Oy! Fur dem Goyem? Enough of this one. His mother died on 9-11 in the twin towers and then again (sorry, I forgot the occasion) later. He loaned himself $700,000 for his own campaign for his new job of introducing rich people to each other (as best I can understand it). He said he worked for two Wall Street firms, but they never heard of him. I recently saw a video-clip of him: He was on the network program run by Steve Bannon who had to be in court for fraud as he misused the money he raised to build the wall on the border with Mexico. In that program, Mat Gaetz substituted for Bannon and the two of them got along quite well. I did wonder whatever to Mr. Gaetz’s violation of the Mann Act (I think it’s called, illegal to transport a minor over state lines for sex purposes), but that wasn’t the purpose here. He is a Republican problem and I think, therefore, we should start a fan-club for him. (Just to add one other point, he is also known as Anthony Devalde (I kid you not).


Now, they are also afraid that Democrats are coming for their gas stoves. Lock your doors and demand a warrant for anyone to enter your home! (Actually, that’s a good idea anyway.) They don’t seem to know that the debt ceiling has to be raised, or better yet done away with. It needs to be raised so that we and pay the money we have already spent. It’s about the only analogy they are capable of understanding is that it is like a credit card bill, but you send a note to MasterCard saying “sorry, we need to make budget costs”. The difference here is that if we do not pay our bills as a country, we could very well create a world depression.


If we were to take these fools one at a time, it would be too much typing. Let’s take a State, say Missouri. Awhile back, I discussed Iran and the stupidity of forcing women to cover their hair and imposing the death penalty. Well, let’s look at Missouri. Not many people realize this, but we are talking about two states. Missouri is comprised of areas all by the I70 highway and includes Kansas City and St. Louis. Parts of Columbia are also Missouri. The rest of the state is Mizzourah. Which voted for Trump by double digits. The legislature just instituted a rule that female lawmakers must cover their arms. It also has the death penalty, but has not yet joined the two. Moreover, no one has indicated why this is the rule, but who cares? Also, abortion is illegal so far as anybody really knows. I believe Kentucky passed a law forbidding Sharia law, but our Constitution would do that anyway. Enough.


Well, too much of this. Let it not be said that McCarthy lost a vote for speaker 15 straight times!



On Religion

I started out to publish this because of too much misunderstanding about religion and so many new readers since it was first published about 9 years ago:






GOD'S DEATH -- POSTMORTEM BY NIETZSCHE

It reminds me of a remark of Tom Lehrer as saying that "Most patriotic Americans are feeling like a Christian Scientist with appendicitis." I am actually finding it either amusing or laughable. On the other hand, when I realize that so many Americans take this nonsense seriously, it can become quite depressing.

One also remembers Bernard Shaw's dictum "Beware of the man whose God is in the skies." The problem is, of course, that these people simply state things as fact as coming from the word of God, and yet God does not have a phone number and is not available for confirmation.

Some time back, there was a great deal of consternation over the phrase "God is Dead!" Many people knew it somehow came from the German philosopher Frederick Nietzsche, but that was about it. They hated the idea, considered it blasphemy, and the kinder of them took pity on him and those who agreed. However, they never really understood what was meant by that phrase.

We are going to change all that right now.

First, an amusing bit a graffiti:

"God is Dead." – Nietzsche

"Nietzsche is Dead." – God

And thus it remained until the final statement, understood only by those who knew a bit about the subject:

"I was born posthumously." -- Nietzsche

And there it has stood for some time. (Yes, Nietzsche actually prophesied that.)

It seems quite clear that many of these people never read past the first mention of God's death in the Prologue to Book One of Zarathustra. In fact, many of them do not realize that the character Zarathustra was invented by Nietzsche and undergoes a change during the course of the work. He took the name of Zoroaster, the mystic, because he had experienced no prophet with whom he more intensely disagreed, and it is worth mentioning as well that the transliteration of Zoroaster is often Zarathustra, or something quite close to it.

I take it that few readers of Nietzsche also realize that he was trained as a classical philologist and studied a wide variety of languages. He was especially interested in pre-Homeric writers.

So, with this in mind, let us look at a few passages where Zarathustra discusses God's death. Nietzsche is nearly impossible to translate to anyone's satisfaction, but Walter Kaufmann, who came to Nietzsche hating everything he stood for BEFORE he did the translations, manage to translate him into sense in English and thus understanding what he actually stood for and changing his mind radically. R. Hollingsdale and M. Cowan have also produced excellent and scholarly accepted translations. I am providing my own, just because I don't want to bother worrying about the absurdity of "fair use" and because I want to translate it the way it came across to me originally. If you can read the original German, ignore the translation. Nietzsche abounds in plays of words, puns, double-meanings, and like to joke a great deal and one who takes everything seriously and as the last word will be helplessly lost.

Here is that first mention:

Als Zarathustra aber allein war, sprach er also zu seinem Herzen:

"Sollte es denn möglich sein! Dieser alte Heilige hat in seinem Walde

noch Nichts davon gehört, dass _Gott_todt_ ist!" -

Einst war der Frevel an Gott der grösste Frevel, aber Gott starb, und

damit auch diese Frevelhaften. An der Erde zu freveln ist jetzt das

Furchtbarste und die Eingeweide des Unerforschlichen höher zu achten,

als der Sinn der Erde!

OR

When Zarathustra was alone he spoke thus to his heart: "Could it be possible! This old saint in his forest not yet heard that God is dead!"-

Sacrilege was the greatest crime of blasphemy against God, but God died, and so also those blasphemers. To blaspheme the earth is now the role and the entrails of the unknowable to ensure higher life as the meaning of the earth!

The key to that now is that the idea of God is dead, blasphemy is to be stupid enough to attack quantitative evolution, a leap upwards from Mankind. (I know, you can have your own interpretation.)

One of my favorite, however, comes at the end of the third book, after Zarathustra has absented himself from man twice before and gain a better perspective on things.

Ist es denn nicht _lange_ vorbei auch für alle solche Zweifel? Wer

darf noch solche alte eingeschlafne lichtscheue Sachen aufwecken!

Mit den alten Göttern gieng es ja lange schon zu Ende: - und wahrlich,

ein gutes fröhliches Götter-Ende hatten sie!

Sie "dämmerten" sich nicht zu Tode, - das lügt man wohl! Vielmehr: sie

haben sich selber einmal zu Tode - _gelacht_!

Das geschah, als das gottloseste Wort von einem Gotte selber ausgieng,

- das Wort: "Es ist Ein Gott! Du sollst keinen andern Gott haben neben

mir!" -

- ein alter Grimm-Bart von Gott, ein eifersüchtiger vergass sich also:

Und alle Götter lachten damals und wackelten auf ihren Stühlen und

riefen: "Ist das nicht eben Göttlichkeit, dass es Götter, aber keinen

Gott giebt?"

Wer Ohren hat, der höre. -

Also redete Zarathustra in der Stadt, die er liebte und welche

zubenannt ist die bunte Kuh. Von hier nämlich hatte er nur noch zwei

Tage zu gehen, dass er wieder in seine Höhle käme und zu seinen

Thieren; seine Seele aber frohlockte beständig ob der Nähe seiner

Heimkehr. -

Or

II is long passed for all such doubts? Who may still wake up those old light-shunning things!

With the old gods, it went so long since come to an end: - and verily, a good joyful Deity-end they had!

Their "falling asleep" is not to death - that is probably lying! Rather, they laughed themselves to death once!

That happened with the most godless word of a God himself, - The word: "I alone am God! Me! Thou shalt have no other gods before me! "-

- An old grim-beard of a God, a jealous old fart, forgot himself thus. And all the other gods then laughed, and shook upon their thrones and shouted: "Is this not just divinity that there are gods, but no God exists? "

Who hath ears to hear, listen!

And that is it. Obviously, Nietzsche did not write "fart," but it fits! You can supply whatever you like there – try Langenschiedt's (or however it is spelled).

Later on, Zarathustra offers details as to how God died (as it is, I skipped over about 15 different versions between the first one and the last). In Book 4, after another hiatus in his life, Zarathustra speaks much more calmly and evenly as his audience is comprised of only the "highest" of mankind.

Probably the most salient reason is that God died of pity for man after he saw man nailed to the cross.

Nowhere does God mention the morning after pill.


iIn Paris, France (there is one in Texas that has caused many problems with the term “french fries, but that is besides the point here) I attempted to ask one of the policemen where Rue de Voltaire could be found. He was extremely polite, even saluted me, clicked his heels, and bent slightly, and I tried again. He then said Agh! Voltargghair! Or something like that. I nodded vigorously, joping he did not consider me a German (they seem to have a long memory there) and he pointed upward to the street sign and, sure enough, we were standing at the very corner. We both laughed and I nodded to him, said Danke, and left him, somewhat puzzled.





































































































 THE THREAT HAS BEEN MADE


BY


Honest Charlie



We have reached a new period of Absurdity and I freely admit that I am puzzled as to how to report it. I put a meme up just to help, if it does. I’ll try to say a bit about the absurdity now. I believe it was Voltairei who said that life is a tragedy to those who feel and a comedy to those who think. I do not particularly disposed to feeling these days, in face it is far too much effort, and so I finally find it amusing, but hardly a real comedy. Tacked on at the end is a discussion of religion for the new readers and for the Christian Nationalists.


Let us start with one of the more disgusting and vile, a congressman from Ohio. He not only says there in no difference between the Biden 10 pages or more that were returned as soon as noticed and the 30 to 50 boxes of papers down in Trump’s property, many marked TOP SECRET and which he has called MINE! Now, there are probably many right-wing fools and cowards who will believe him and buy into this “conspiracy” and “dauble standard”. I mean it. They actually equate the two. Now when Jimmie Carter wrote his WHITE HOUSE DIARY, he was careful to write it in the East Wing (officially his home at the time) so that it could not be claimed as government property. I can not even imagine him taking any government property home to Georgia, but that may be because at the time I would not take anything to Georgia.


Well, I can not help but move away from that ass from Ohio. He reminds me much of Dennis Hastert. Hastert was a (pardon the expression) Republican, an ex-wrestling coach, and liked to play with college-age naked wrestlers. He left politics as soon as the secret came out. Now, Jim Jordan is of that same party, and ex-wrestling coach, and there were remarks about how he liked to stare at naked wrestlers in the shower while he was a coach. The University had other problems with sex exploits, so this never went anywhere, but I do wonder what is going to happen every time he strips off his jacket in congress. But, he does shave – himself. I really do not want to spend any more time on him.


But we can not simply point to one poser the discuss this morass of muck. Another, postures himself as a self-made man, and has been noted several time, is rather a self made-up man, usually known as George Santos. He actually represents everything that the term “Republican” stands for, as well as several other politicians. It is overwhelming to remember and list all of his fabrications, but one was quite clear as somebody has a video of it. Santos was being interviewed and announced that he attended Baruch College on a Volleyball Scholarship. The host announced that he also went to that College, but did not pursue the topic. He says he was Magna cum laude, I believe, but it doesn’t matter as he never went to college.


He proclaimed that his grandmother was a holocaust surviver and felt that he was therefore Jew-ish. Oy! Fur dem Goyem? Enough of this one. His mother died on 9-11 in the twin towers and then again (sorry, I forgot the occasion) later. He loaned himself $700,000 for his own campaign for his new job of introducing rich people to each other (as best I can understand it). He said he worked for two Wall Street firms, but they never heard of him. I recently saw a video-clip of him: He was on the network program run by Steve Bannon who had to be in court for fraud as he misused the money he raised to build the wall on the border with Mexico. In that program, Mat Gaetz substituted for Bannon and the two of them got along quite well. I did wonder whatever to Mr. Gaetz’s violation of the Mann Act (I think it’s called, illegal to transport a minor over state lines for sex purposes), but that wasn’t the purpose here. He is a Republican problem and I think, therefore, we should start a fan-club for him.


Now, they are also afraid that Democrats are coming for their gas stoves. Lock your doors and demand a warrant for anyone to enter your home! (Actually, that’s a good idea anyway.) They don’t seem to know that the debt ceiling has to be raised, or better yet done away with. It needs to be raised so that we and pay the money we have already spent. It’s about the only analogy they are capable of understanding is that it is like a credit card bill, but you send a note to MasterCard saying “sorry, we need to make budget costs”. The difference here is that if we do not pay our bills as a country, we could very well create a world depression.


If we were to take these fools one at a time, it would be too much typing. Let’s take a State, say Missouri. Awhile back, I discussed Iran and the stupidity of forcing women to cover their hair and imposing the death penalty. Well, let’s look at Missouri. Not many people realize this, but we are talking about two states. Missouri is comprised of areas all by the I70 highway and includes Kansas City and St. Louis. Parts of Columbia are also Missouri. The rest of the state is Mizzourah. Which voted for Trump by double digits. The legislature just instituted a rule that female lawmakers must cover their arms. It also has the death penalty, but has not yet joined the two. Moreover, no one has indicated why this is the rule, but who cares? Also, abortion is illegal so far as anybody really knows. I believe Kentucky passed a law forbidding Sharia law, but our Constitution would do that anyway. Enough.


Well, too much of this. Let it not be said that McCarthy lost a vote for speaker 15 straight times!



On Religion

I started out to publish this because of too much misunderstanding about religion and so many new readers since it was first published about 9 years ago:






GOD'S DEATH -- POSTMORTEM BY NIETZSCHE

It reminds me of a remark of Tom Lehrer as saying that "Most patriotic Americans are feeling like a Christian Scientist with appendicitis." I am actually finding it either amusing or laughable. On the other hand, when I realize that so many Americans take this nonsense seriously, it can become quite depressing.

One also remembers Bernard Shaw's dictum "Beware of the man whose God is in the skies." The problem is, of course, that these people simply state things as fact as coming from the word of God, and yet God does not have a phone number and is not available for confirmation.

Some time back, there was a great deal of consternation over the phrase "God is Dead!" Many people knew it somehow came from the German philosopher Frederick Nietzsche, but that was about it. They hated the idea, considered it blasphemy, and the kinder of them took pity on him and those who agreed. However, they never really understood what was meant by that phrase.

We are going to change all that right now.

First, an amusing bit a graffiti:

"God is Dead." – Nietzsche

"Nietzsche is Dead." – God

And thus it remained until the final statement, understood only by those who knew a bit about the subject:

"I was born posthumously." -- Nietzsche

And there it has stood for some time. (Yes, Nietzsche actually prophesied that.)

It seems quite clear that many of these people never read past the first mention of God's death in the Prologue to Book One of Zarathustra. In fact, many of them do not realize that the character Zarathustra was invented by Nietzsche and undergoes a change during the course of the work. He took the name of Zoroaster, the mystic, because he had experienced no prophet with whom he more intensely disagreed, and it is worth mentioning as well that the transliteration of Zoroaster is often Zarathustra, or something quite close to it.

I take it that few readers of Nietzsche also realize that he was trained as a classical philologist and studied a wide variety of languages. He was especially interested in pre-Homeric writers.

So, with this in mind, let us look at a few passages where Zarathustra discusses God's death. Nietzsche is nearly impossible to translate to anyone's satisfaction, but Walter Kaufmann, who came to Nietzsche hating everything he stood for BEFORE he did the translations, manage to translate him into sense in English and thus understanding what he actually stood for and changing his mind radically. R. Hollingsdale and M. Cowan have also produced excellent and scholarly accepted translations. I am providing my own, just because I don't want to bother worrying about the absurdity of "fair use" and because I want to translate it the way it came across to me originally. If you can read the original German, ignore the translation. Nietzsche abounds in plays of words, puns, double-meanings, and like to joke a great deal and one who takes everything seriously and as the last word will be helplessly lost.

Here is that first mention:

Als Zarathustra aber allein war, sprach er also zu seinem Herzen:

"Sollte es denn möglich sein! Dieser alte Heilige hat in seinem Walde

noch Nichts davon gehört, dass _Gott_todt_ ist!" -

Einst war der Frevel an Gott der grösste Frevel, aber Gott starb, und

damit auch diese Frevelhaften. An der Erde zu freveln ist jetzt das

Furchtbarste und die Eingeweide des Unerforschlichen höher zu achten,

als der Sinn der Erde!

OR

When Zarathustra was alone he spoke thus to his heart: "Could it be possible! This old saint in his forest not yet heard that God is dead!"-

Sacrilege was the greatest crime of blasphemy against God, but God died, and so also those blasphemers. To blaspheme the earth is now the role and the entrails of the unknowable to ensure higher life as the meaning of the earth!

The key to that now is that the idea of God is dead, blasphemy is to be stupid enough to attack quantitative evolution, a leap upwards from Mankind. (I know, you can have your own interpretation.)

One of my favorite, however, comes at the end of the third book, after Zarathustra has absented himself from man twice before and gain a better perspective on things.

Ist es denn nicht _lange_ vorbei auch für alle solche Zweifel? Wer

darf noch solche alte eingeschlafne lichtscheue Sachen aufwecken!

Mit den alten Göttern gieng es ja lange schon zu Ende: - und wahrlich,

ein gutes fröhliches Götter-Ende hatten sie!

Sie "dämmerten" sich nicht zu Tode, - das lügt man wohl! Vielmehr: sie

haben sich selber einmal zu Tode - _gelacht_!

Das geschah, als das gottloseste Wort von einem Gotte selber ausgieng,

- das Wort: "Es ist Ein Gott! Du sollst keinen andern Gott haben neben

mir!" -

- ein alter Grimm-Bart von Gott, ein eifersüchtiger vergass sich also:

Und alle Götter lachten damals und wackelten auf ihren Stühlen und

riefen: "Ist das nicht eben Göttlichkeit, dass es Götter, aber keinen

Gott giebt?"

Wer Ohren hat, der höre. -

Also redete Zarathustra in der Stadt, die er liebte und welche

zubenannt ist die bunte Kuh. Von hier nämlich hatte er nur noch zwei

Tage zu gehen, dass er wieder in seine Höhle käme und zu seinen

Thieren; seine Seele aber frohlockte beständig ob der Nähe seiner

Heimkehr. -

Or

II is long passed for all such doubts? Who may still wake up those old light-shunning things!

With the old gods, it went so long since come to an end: - and verily, a good joyful Deity-end they had!

Their "falling asleep" is not to death - that is probably lying! Rather, they laughed themselves to death once!

That happened with the most godless word of a God himself, - The word: "I alone am God! Me! Thou shalt have no other gods before me! "-

- An old grim-beard of a God, a jealous old fart, forgot himself thus. And all the other gods then laughed, and shook upon their thrones and shouted: "Is this not just divinity that there are gods, but no God exists? "

Who hath ears to hear, listen!

And that is it. Obviously, Nietzsche did not write "fart," but it fits! You can supply whatever you like there – try Langenschiedt's (or however it is spelled).

Later on, Zarathustra offers details as to how God died (as it is, I skipped over about 15 different versions between the first one and the last). In Book 4, after another hiatus in his life, Zarathustra speaks much more calmly and evenly as his audience is comprised of only the "highest" of mankind.

Probably the most salient reason is that God died of pity for man after he saw man nailed to the cross.

Nowhere does God mention the morning after pill.


iIn Paris, France (there is one in Texas that has caused many problems with the term “french fries, but that is besides the point here) I attempted to ask one of the policemen where Rue de Voltaire could be found. He was extremely polite, even saluted me, clicked his heels, and bent slightly, and I tried again. He then said Agh! Voltargghair! Or something like that. I nodded vigorously, joping he did not consider me a German (they seem to have a long memory there) and he pointed upward to the street sign and, sure enough, we were standing at the very corner. We both laughed and I nodded to him, said Danke, and left him, somewhat puzzled.



Wednesday, September 19, 2018

Divided Left



THE ABSURD TIMES



Tax the Churches
Czar Donic


Problems on the left

Maybe this is in a fit of pique.  I don't know.  But as far back as I can remember, there have always been silly and self-defeating fights on the left.  Will Rodgers famously said "I don't belong to any organized political party – I'm a Democrat."  Back then, it was a relatively conservative stance as the Socialist Party had been rising rapidly in light of big business.

It always seemed that there were these petty squabbles: who is more liberal?  Who is really, really, with the earth and freedom?  Who can prove they believe in equality the most?  Show us.

Today, it seems that some of this is dying down just because Trump and his tribe comprise such an offensive and overbearing assault on rights, but even them it continues.  The routing of Al Franken from the Senate is a case in point, a crusade set up by a right-wing talk show host, but finalized by Kirsten Gillebrand, or however it is spelled.  Wonderful.  The Koch brothers were delighted.

In some circles, it is even forbidden to say anything positive about Bernie Sanders because he "sabotaged" Hillary Clinton's chances.  Well, nobody did more to sabotage her chances than she did.  Sure, Comey had a great deal to do with it, but mention that to a Hillary supporter and immediately you are spouting Russian propaganda!  The FBI twice warned the campaign that it's computer security was inadequate, and it was ignored.  The account hacked was on AOL and the password was, cleverly, PASSWORD.  Seasoned hackers might not even try that one as it is too stupid to believe, but there it was.

Growing up in Chicago, I learned a great deal about politics, especially on the practical level.  First you want to get some sort of ally elected, then you work on him, excuse me, him or her.  If you do not have the office, you can do nothing.  At one point, the Catholic Church carried out a crusade to tell Mayor Daley what movies could or could not be shown.  One of his advisors, who I knew, pointed to one of their enormous buildings, tax free, and said "if you want to tell government what to do, start paying property taxes!"  I guess, the church took that opportunity to start sexually molesting children.

At least something was done.  Everyone is convinced that tax cuts were a good thing, but most of the cuts went to the rich and were used to buy up more stock in their own companies.  Some jobs program.

Trump is under criminal investigation and this is an election year.  Midterms are only 2 months away.  Why should be be permitted to nominate anybody to anything? 

I have seen people say that the Carolinas look like some third world country.  Well, actually, in third world countries one does not see animals penned up and their waste matter collected on mass bins, open air bins.  If the hurricane, Florence, had stayed a category 4, or even 4, it may have scattered pig shit as far away as Fargo.

I knew guys like Bret Kavanough, priviledged, of wealthy family, catholic, and bullies.  It is amazing the voting stances of all the catholic justices on the Supreme Court.  It must be an accident, surely.

Why not some Babtists?  Perhaps Pat Robertson, whatever he was or is could sit on the court.  I know he does not have a law degree, but he has studied God's word, as it is called, so that is, after all, a higher law, right? 

You might want to compare the two interviews and decide which is more important, if either.

Dr. Christine Blasey Ford's sexual assault allegations against Brett Kavanaugh have cast doubt on whether President Trump's Supreme Court nominee will be confirmed by the Senate. "The process was bad from the beginning," says Rev. Dr. William Barber, co-chair of the Poor People's Campaign and president of Repairers of the Breach. "We are poised to have two presidents that did not win the popular vote, now will have appointed four extreme members to the Supreme Court." Barber says Kavanaugh will be dangerous to voting rights, to labor rights, to healthcare and to women's rights.


Transcript
This is a rush transcript. Copy may not be in its final form.
AMY GOODMAN: This is Democracy Now!, democracynow.org, The War and Peace Report. I'm Amy Goodman. We're going to turn right now to the Reverend William Barber. We're speaking to him in North Carolina, and we originally had him on to talk about the hurricane. But before we go to that, Dr. William Barber, I wanted to ask you about—I wanted ask you about Judge Kavanaugh. You held a news conference opposing Judge Kavanaugh's confirmation to the Supreme Court well before Dr. Blasey Ford spoke out and said that he had attempted to rape her when they were both teenagers. I was wondering if you would share your thoughts at this point, both on this latest controversy and why you're so vehemently opposed to Judge Kavanaugh taking a seat on the Supreme Court.
REV. WILLIAM BARBER II: Well, thank you so much, Amy, for this opportunity. Before all of the latest news, Judge Kavanaugh, first of all, was being put forward after McConnell in the Senate held open a seat for over 420 days, in a way that we had not seen since the Civil War. They literally denied a president his right to nominate someone and for them to have a hearing. This was the same Judiciary Committee that denied two African-American women a hearing to be appointed to the federal court, the 1st District—Eastern District in North Carolina. So the process was bad from the beginning.
Secondly, what we are seeing now, if we look at George Bush and now Donald Trump, we are poised to have two presidents that did not win the popular vote now will appoint—will have appointed four members to the Supreme Court, four extreme members to the Supreme Court. We already have a Supreme Court that rolled back the Voting Rights Act. Kavanaugh, we believe, will be dangerous to voting rights, to labor rights, to healthcare and to women's rights. And that was exposed in the hearings of what he would not answer and what he would not say was settled law. For instance, Senator Kamala Harris asked him, "Was Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act settled law?" Section 2 says—it's basically the protection that says no state can engage in discriminatory practices as it relates to voting and voting rights. He did not answer that question. He could not even say yes on something as fundamental as voting rights. So he was a dangerous, if you will, nominee already.
Now that this has come out—and I've been thinking about it in a number of ways. Number one, this lady did not intend to come out. Dr. Ford, she—it was leaked. And she has asked for a FBI investigation. That's strange for someone that the extremists, who call them Republicans, are trying to say she's lying. But be it as it may, it's all alleged. I heard Michael Moore mention a minute ago about the feminist side of this, the woman's side of this agenda. Let me flip this over. Imagine Obama nominating a black or a Latino man for the Supreme Court, and an accusation comes up that that black or Latino man had attempted to rape a teenage girl. Imagine that for a minute, and imagine what the Republicans would be doing if in fact that was the scene that we're dealing with now. Here they are having a white man for the Supreme Court nominee accused of raping—attempting to rape a white woman, and they are already forming an opinion and wanting to refuse to even give her an FBI investigation. This is nothing but the gangsterization of our politics and our political systems, and people in America must stand up against this entire process, because it is a direct—it's contrary to our fundamental values.

As President Trump visits North Carolina, where thousands are evacuating after Hurricane Florence caused record flooding, we go to Raleigh to speak with Rev. Dr. William Barber, co-chair of the Poor People's Campaign. Areas devastated by the storm include some of the poorest areas on the Eastern Seaboard. Barber's recent CNN piece is headlined "In hurricane wind and waves, the poor suffer most."


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AMY GOODMAN: Well, I wanted to turn right now, Reverend Barber, to what you're dealing with in North Carolina, to look at how thousands continue to evacuate North Carolina in the wake of Hurricane Florence, now a tropical depression, which has caused record flooding since it made landfall five days ago. President Trump is expected to visit your state, is going to North and South Carolina today. The death toll from the storm has risen to at least 35, including three young children, and in—as well, in South Carolina, two women detainees drowned in a sheriff's van. More than 10,000 people have already fled to shelters. Nearly 400,000 are without power in North Carolina.
On Tuesday, Governor Roy Cooper said 16 rivers were at major flood stage, and three more rivers could peak in coming days. Massive industrial coal ash landfills and pig and chicken farms have also been engulfed by the floodwaters, and millions of chickens and pigs have drowned. The Associated Press reports at least 45 active farms are located in the floodplain. Crystal Coast Waterkeeper Larry Baldwin flew over eastern North Carolina and described the damage to hog and chicken farms.
LARRY BALDWIN: We did see a couple facilities today that were already in serious trouble. They were surrounded by water. Their lagoons were surrounded by water. Their spray fields were completely covered up. The situation is not good. But it's not good today, but it's likely to get much worse throughout the rest of the week as these waters start to get to their flood levels.
AMY GOODMAN: More than 1.4 million people in North Carolina are now without functioning water systems, and even more have been ordered to boil their water. The areas devastated by Hurricane Florence include some of the poorest areas on the Eastern Seaboard. In some counties, nearly one in three people live below the poverty line.
For more, we continue to speak with Reverend Dr. William Barber, who's co-chair of the Poor People's Campaign. He's in Raleigh, North Carolina, distinguished visiting professor of public theology at Union Theological Seminary, former president of the North Carolina NAACP, and Moral Mondays leader, recently wrote a piece for CNN headlined "In hurricane wind and waves, the poor suffer most."
So describe what's happening on the ground, Dr. Barber, in your state.
REV. WILLIAM BARBER II: Well, I'm actually—you're right—in Raleigh and headed back to Goldsboro, where my church, Greenleaf Christian Church, and also Repairers of the Breach were planning to feed children, who many of them are missing meals because the schools are closed, because the rivers, even in my city, have not crested yet. We don't know the rate—what this flood will cause. In Fayetteville, it's over—they're talking about 61 feet, some 15 to 20 feet higher than it was when Mitchell, Hurricane Mitchell, came, that gave us a 500-year flood across the state.
Amy, here's what we have to help people to understand. And Trump is coming, for instance, to visit today, but his policies—the negative impact of his policies were visited on the poor and low-wealth long before he came. We are in a state, before the hurricane, poor people and low-wealth people had a storm. There are over 4.7 million residents in North Carolina that are poor and low-wealth. There were over a million people in North Carolina, before the storm, that did not have healthcare. The counties that are being hit the hardest, Amy, are Tier I and Tier II. Tier I is the most distressed county in terms of housing, healthcare and poverty, and Tier II is the next level. They are being hit the hardest. In North Carolina, 2 million workers make under $15 an hour. And it would take a person making $7 an hour—they'd have to work some 80-some hours just to afford a two-bedroom apartment. That's what existed before the hurricane. Forty-eight percent of people in North Carolina are poor or low-income. That's what existed before the hurricane.
And we have an extremist, Republican-led Legislature that refused to expand Medicaid, which meant 500,000 people in our state could have healthcare right now and they don't have it. The Republican Congress is talking about cutting SNAP. People need those food stamps now more than ever, after this flood. We refuse a living wage. Many of the people who are flooded, they work hourly jobs. They are not getting paid now. When people—they don't have the resources. When the governor and others said evacuate, they couldn't evacuate, because they don't have the money, they don't have the cars, they did not have the ability. And when you think about it, the state is now bringing federal money. The president will say he's going to give federal money. But this state has refused federal money that would have helped the poor prior to the storm, so that they would have buffers against the storm.
So we have two hurricanes—the hurricane of poverty and lack of healthcare and lack of living wages that existed prior to the storm, and then we have the storm, and now everything that was already tough for people has been exacerbated. That's the story we must keep our eyes on, because some people are looking at what happened on the coast. We actually dodged a bullet on the coast. But if you come inland now and see these rivers that are—where mostly the poor live, along these rivers, in these rural communities, they are being devastated.
And when you add to that, lastly, Amy, the environmental devastation—the coal ash, the hog farms, the bacteria, the poison that's being put in the water table and put in the rivers—this is a catastrophe, a tremendous catastrophe. But some of it could have been buffered, could have been made better, if our state, particularly people in Congress, would help the poor in advance of this storm, would make sure everybody has healthcare and living wages, and we had cleaned up these coal ashes, and we—coal ash ponds, and we stopped using fossil fuels. If those kinds of things would happen in advance of storms, there wouldn't be so much damage to the poor and the least of these after the storm.
AMY GOODMAN: Well, speaking of poverty, I wanted to read a letterfrom a resident of Edenton, North Carolina, who wrote to The New York Times this week, quote, "Unfortunately, my family does not have the resources to put gas in our vehicle. … I, myself, came here to this city to care for my father, who was diagnosed with cancer, with next to nothing to my name. We have no way out, so we are staying. We live together in a double-wide trailer." That's one letter.
REV. WILLIAM BARBER II: Yeah.
AMY GOODMAN: And then I want to turn to the small town of Princeville in eastern North Carolina. The first town chartered by freed slaves in the United States, in 1885, originally known as Freedom Hill, sits on an unwanted floodplain along the Tar River, that's flooded many times. The town's website notes, quote, "Flooding, like the threat of white supremacy, has plagued Princeville since its settlement. Major floods occurred two years after the community's founding and again in 1919, 1924, 1928, 1940 and 1958." The Army Corps of Engineers eventually built a dike that helped reduce the flooding, but in 1999 heavy rains from Hurricane Floyd submerged parts of Princeville under 23 feet of water for more than a week. This is Princeville resident Linda Worsley speaking to The New York Times about how she was displaced from her home by flooding after Hurricane Matthew caused widespread damage in the town in 2016.
LINDA WORSLEY: We did have a dike built up. But the water actually went around the dike, and it came up behind my house and destroyed everything. Then a lot of the water also came up through the sewer systems.
REPORTER: Are you worried about whether or not you'll be allowed to rebuild on this land?
LINDA WORSLEY: Yes, I am. Trying to do everything I can to make sure I'll still be able to stay in the same land that my forefathers bought, so that we could have somewhere to live, you know?
AMY GOODMAN: So, that clip from Princeville, a 2016 report, talking about the black community, the first community founded by freed slaves. Can you talk more about this, Reverend Barber?
REV. WILLIAM BARBER II: I actually did a rededication of that city this past year, and I know people there. I live not far from Princeville. I live in eastern North Carolina. I was raised in eastern North Carolina. So this is my home that I'm seeing constantly hit. We know about what happened in Matthew and Floyd. It literally devastated. I think something like a 15-foot wall of water came through that area. It actually sat the pews inside of churches all the way up, had them standing up inside of the church. The water was that powerful. And people lost their lives, again.
But since that flood, it was after that that North Carolina's extremist politicians said, "We don't need healthcare. We don't need a living wage. We don't need to deal with these environmental issues." If anything, they deregulated. And here we are again. We're in a state where 56 percent of the children, Amy, 1.3 million, are poor and low-wealth. Sixty-two percent of people of color, 2.3 million, are poor and low-wealth.
But this is something people also don't know: The majority of the poor people in North Carolina are white. And even in eastern North Carolina, while those counties are the counties with the highest percentages of African Americans, the majority of the people in those counties are white, and the majority of the people who are poor are white. And so it's a race question and a class question. It's a denial question.
It's a question that after these storms normally happen, people go back to business as usual, or we get something like we see the extremism of Trump, where you deny the things that people need. Then, when the storm hits, you come in and you visit and act as though you're concerned, but your policies prior to the storm created problems for the people in a way that they wouldn't have some of these problems they have now, if you hadn't been so vicious and so mean and so regressive in your policies when the days were sunny. We're going to have to learn how to do this better. People are suffering. People are afraid all over eastern North Carolina.
And think about this, Amy. This is the only glimmer of sunshine in the midst of this. This is what a Category 1 and a tropical storm has done. They thought it would be a Category 4 or 3. If it had been a Category 3 or 4, it is unimaginable what the pain and the travesty would be, what the poisoning to the environment would be, what the need for healthcare would be. Imagine now, people that are getting sick, that could have healthcare, don't have it. How are they going to be treated? You know, homes—as you said, you talked about a lady living in a mobile home. There are so many mobile homes. We could do so much better with affordable housing in these areas, but that's not the case. Some people may be off work two and three weeks. They already were in a position before the storm where if they missed one day, they might not be able to pay their rent or afford their medicine or feed their families. We have to talk about the political and social storms that exacerbate the natural storms when they do happen.
AMY GOODMAN: Just last month, former Vice President Al Gore visited you in North Carolina, and you went on a tour of the coal-impacted communities, Gore speaking here in front of the smokestacks of Duke Energy's Belews Creek Steam Station, which runs on coal.
AL GORE: I want to draw connections between Belews Lake and the coal ash pollution and the gaseous pollution that is threatening to make of our entire planet the kind of mess that they've made here. We had to stop for—on the way over here, for—actually, we didn't stop, but we saw going beside us all these train cars full of coal. On a peak day, this plant over here burns 220 railcars full of coal. And what is left over when they burn it is this toxic coal ash. Now, if you had all these millions of tons of a toxic substance and you just dug a raw gash in the ground and dumped it in there, you would be behaving recklessly. That's what they're doing. This is a crime scene!
AMY GOODMAN: So, that's Vice President Al Gore speaking outside the Duke Energy plant with you, Reverend Barber. Duke Energy—that was before the storm. Duke Energy now says at least 2,000 cubic yards of coal ash were released amidst Tropical Depression Florence's massive flooding in North Carolina, enough ash to fill something like 180 dump trucks. As we wrap up, what this means?
REV. WILLIAM BARBER II: And one of those areas is in Goldsboro. It's in the Neuse River. It's one of the sites that was already leaking, that people have been fighting. And they tell us all the time, "The coal ash is not poison." And we say, "Well, then, why isn't it in the rich communities? Why isn't it in the communities of the politicians?" It is poisonous. It is dangerous. It was already leaking. It was already broken. It was already messed up. The storm has exacerbated this, and it did not have to be this way.
Duke, the very company that's now having to send people out to help turn on power, is the same company that has negatively impacted poor communities by placing all of these coal ash ponds and coal ash sites in and around poor communities, in and around sources of water. It is a form of hypocrisy, on one hand, to say "we want to help you" after the storm, but then, when—but before the storm, we engage in policies that continually hurt and harm the poor, the low-wealth and the least of us.
AMY GOODMAN: Well, we want to thank you so much, Reverend Dr. William Barber. And also, of course, with President Trump coming to the Carolinas today, he proudly denies climate change, calls it a Chinese hoax. In the last 10 seconds, what would you say to him about this?
REV. WILLIAM BARBER II: I would say to him what my son, who is an environmentalist lawyer and also an environmentalist physicist—because of the warming air, it's messing up the jet streams, therefore what you have is this erratic hurricanes. They twist and turn and stop and move. And that means they dump more water. That means they hold more water. That means they're more powerful. Anybody who denies climate change is a fool. And it is foolish to do it, because your denial of climate change, your denial of healthcare, your denial of living wages, your denial of environmental protection devastates the poor before storms ever come, and then there is an additional devastation on top of it.
AMY GOODMAN: We want to thank you so much, Reverend Dr. William Barber, co-chair of the Poor People's Campaign, joining us from Raleigh, North Carolina. We'll link to your piece at CNN, "In hurricane wind and waves, the poor suffer most." And interesting you talked about your son, as Vice President Al Gore brought his daughter Karenna, a well-known environmentalist, also at Union Theological.
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