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Our World Now

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@Honestcharlie

I tried to get Zarathustra to come back to see the "higher man," but he threw up in disgust and simply said "Nein!"  He admitted Schopenhauer was right.  There are no bridges left.

I don't know if this will be the last or not, but this is about the 4^th time I've posted this list.  If anything, the consolidation has increased by now.   Still, we have some thoughts on the 20^th anniversary of Democracy Now, one independent media voice.  It started with one, then five, then seven outlets, all on the radio.  One outlet in Houston had its transmitter blown up twice, probably by the KKK. Now it is over 1,400 outlets worldwide of TV and Radio, almost corporatized once but saved by a coalition of people like Dick Gregory, Michael Moore, etc. 

So what is going on now around this world?

Most recently, a 16 year old was shot dead while he was slashing away with two 10 inch knives at other students.  No information as to the context.

A skinny little twerp is being tried for mass murder at a church.  He gives the notion of White Supremacy a bad name.  This is a supreme human being?

A female Muslim cop was pushed down a staircase in New York and told to go back home.  This is her home and she was dressed in her cop uniform.

An old warehouse in Oakland rented out for $5,000 a month.  One man who lived there tried to keep it going as it was a meeting and central place for artists and musicians.  It burned down and 36 were fried.  Creativity is frowned upon in a Capitalist owned country.

Boys in grammar school have been grabbing at the genitals of girls, citing the President elect as an example.

Our media is pouring out a torrent of invective about Assad and Aleppo, mourning the "rebels".  Do they mean Al-Nusra?  Isis?  They talk about innocent civilians, but that is what they talked about before destroying Gaddafi and Libya.

The Israeli Parliament legalized the theft of Palestinian land.  The move was needed because their "Supreme Court" ruled it was illegal.  So, they changed the law.

It should be clear now that we have a one-party system.  Two wings, true, but one party.  Better Trump than Sanders who uses words like "Socialism".  Capitalism cannot allow such apostasy.

Our President elect has appointed a slew of right-wing zealots.  Some say it is like "Five Days in May," or the "Night of the Generals."  We need to demilitarize the cabinet.

Arab newspapers frequently use the word Donald Tramp, but that insults Charlie Chaplin.

Good News: The veterans, defending and protecting the constitution, having won at Wounded Knee had moved to Flint, Michigan.

Back to reality: does anyone remember when "Inherit the Wind" was a victory and people looked down on the city and state?  Well, here we are again.

PizzaGate: A fake news story, given credence by the appointed Secretary of State as a child sex ring run by Hillary Clinton led to a guy with an assault weapon shooting inside the place.  Where did he get that damn gun?

Trump reminds me of the typical schoolyard bully of 10 years old.  Say nice things to him, he loves you.  Say bad things and he attacks.  

Strange that he has no time for Intelligence briefings, but never misses Saturday Night live or the Kelley File?

Do we really live in such a world?

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Our World Now -- Media and Insanity

THE ABSURD TIMES

 

Our World Now

By

@Honestcharlie

I tried to get Zarathustra to come back to see the "higher man," but he threw up in disgust and simply said "Nein!"  He admitted Schopenhauer was right.  There are no bridges left.

I don't know if this will be the last or not, but this is about the 4^th time I've posted this list.  If anything, the consolidation has increased by now.   Still, we have some thoughts on the 20^th anniversary of Democracy Now, one independent media voice.  It started with one, then five, then seven outlets, all on the radio.  One outlet in Houston had its transmitter blown up twice, probably by the KKK. Now it is over 1,400 outlets worldwide of TV and Radio, almost corporatized once but saved by a coalition of people like Dick Gregory, Michael Moore, etc. 

So what is going on now around this world?

Most recently, a 16 year old was shot dead while he was slashing away with two 10 inch knives at other students.  No information as to the context.

A skinny little twerp is being tried for mass murder at a church.  He gives the notion of White Supremacy a bad name.  This is a supreme human being?

A female Muslim cop was pushed down a staircase in New York and told to go back home.  This is her home and she was dressed in her cop uniform.

An old warehouse in Oakland rented out for $5,000 a month.  One man who lived there tried to keep it going as it was a meeting and central place for artists and musicians.  It burned down and 36 were fried.  Creativity is frowned upon in a Capitalist owned country.

Boys in grammar school have been grabbing at the genitals of girls, citing the President elect as an example.

Our media is pouring out a torrent of invective about Assad and Aleppo, mourning the "rebels".  Do they mean Al-Nusra?  Isis?  They talk about innocent civilians, but that is what they talked about before destroying Gaddafi and Libya.

The Israeli Parliament legalized the theft of Palestinian land.  The move was needed because their "Supreme Court" ruled it was illegal.  So, they changed the law.

It should be clear now that we have a one-party system.  Two wings, true, but one party.  Better Trump than Sanders who uses words like "Socialism".  Capitalism cannot allow such apostasy.

Our President elect has appointed a slew of right-wing zealots.  Some say it is like "Five Days in May," or the "Night of the Generals."  We need to demilitarize the cabinet.

Arab newspapers frequently use the word Donald Tramp, but that insults Charlie Chaplin.

Good News: The veterans, defending and protecting the constitution, having won at Wounded Knee had moved to Flint, Michigan.

Back to reality: does anyone remember when "Inherit the Wind" was a victory and people looked down on the city and state?  Well, here we are again.

PizzaGate: A fake news story, given credence by the appointed Secretary of State as a child sex ring run by Hillary Clinton led to a guy with an assault weapon shooting inside the place.  Where did he get that damn gun?

Trump reminds me of the typical schoolyard bully of 10 years old.  Say nice things to him, he loves you.  Say bad things and he attacks.  

Strange that he has no time for Intelligence briefings, but never misses Saturday Night live or the Kelley File?

Do we really live in such a world?

Fidel in Pictures

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Palestine and South Americans Illustrate Fidel

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Noe-Fascism Comes to the U.S.

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One of you sent this illustration of you know you. I would have captioned it "KISS HERE".

One does not use the word "Noe-Fascism" lightly, but that is what it seems we have and are faced with, especially in light of our leader to be appointments.  One of them, Nmucischin or something like that (I am told that in Arabic it sounds very much like "Fucker") was one of the worst malefactors on the 2008 crash, especially of the banks and housing.  A Goldman Sachs  type who capitalized on reverse mortgages and foreclosures on 90 year old retirees living on Social Security and is proud of his background.  A clear Sociopath.

For Defense Secretary, he is appointing someone called "Mad Dog."  Now, this sort of nickname might be welcome for a linebacker or professional wrestler, but it is far from someone appropriate for an administration of an extremely complex military complex.  One quote of his that has been publicized is: "It is fun to kill people," (with the caveat that he referred to Taliban members).  If all this and other things about him are true, he is a psychopath..

For Veterans Affairs, the name that most frequently comes up as head is Sarah Palin.  We would have more confidence in Tina Fey.

In any case, here are about 8 pages of a transcript on Noe-Fascism and other matters:

It is becoming clear that the only redeeming aspect of Trump is that he will not listen to advice. 

President-elect Donald Trump has announced a handful of new cabinet picks with deep ties to Wall Street. On Tuesday, he named Steven Mnuchin to be Treasury Secretary. Mnuchin is a former executive for Goldman Sachs, where his father also worked. Mnuchin's hedge fund also played a role in the housing crisis, after it scooped up the failing California bank IndyMac in 2008. Under Mnuchin's ownership, IndyMac foreclosed on 36,000 families, particularly elderly residents trapped in reverse mortgages. Mnuchin was accused of running a "foreclosure machine." Trump has also picked billionaire private-equity investor Wilbur Ross to be Commerce Secretary. Ross specializes in flipping bankrupt companies for profit, often buying the U.S. companies at low prices and then selling them to overseas investors. He and his companies have sometimes engaged in the very practices Donald Trump rails against: shipping jobs and factories overseas. For more on these picks, we speak with Cornel West, Professor Emeritus at Princeton University. During the Democratic primary he endorsed Bernie Sanders. After Hillary Clinton won the nomination West made headlines when he endorsed Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein.

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NERMEEN SHAIKH: "Wall Street Wins Again as Trump Chooses Bankers and Billionaires." That was the headline in piece by Bloomberg, on Wednesday, shortly after Donald Trump tapped former Goldman Sachs executive Steven Mnuchin to be his Treasury secretary and billionaire investor Wilbur Ross to head the Commerce Department. This comes as Politico is reporting Trump is also considering Goldman Sachs president Gary Cohn for a top post. The two met at Trump Tower on Tuesday. Trump's chief strategist Steve Bannon is also a former Goldman Sachs Vice President who went on to head the right-wing Breitbart news site.

AMY GOODMAN: Wall Street has celebrated the news. On Wednesday, Goldman Sachs stock jumped 3.6% to an eight-year high. This all comes after Donald Trump campaigned on an anti-establishment message often publicly criticizing his opponents for their ties to Goldman Sachs. Here's Trump speaking about Ted Cruz 10 months ago.

DONALD TRUMP: What he wanted to do is say, I will protect you from Goldman Sachs. I will protect you from Citibank. And I will protect you from the banks, because I'm Robin Hood and I'm this wonderful senator and I'm going to protect you from these banks, and then he's borrowing from the banks. And by the way, he's got personal guarantees. And he got-low interest loans. He got low-interest loans. They're low interest. And now he's going to go after Goldman Sachs? It doesn't work that way. Goldman Sachs owns him. Remember that, folks. They own him.

NERMEEN SHAIKH: On Wednesday, Democratic Senator Sherrod Brown of Ohio, the ranking member of the Senate Banking Committee, criticized Donald Trump for picking former Goldman Sachs executive Steven Mnuchin to be Treasury secretary. Brown said, "President-elect Trump campaigned against big money's power in Washington and accused Wall Street and hedge funds of getting away with murder. But now he's picked a hedge-fund manager whose Wall Street ties couldn't run deeper to lead the Treasury Department, which is exactly what this election showed the American people don't want. This isn't draining the swamp, it's stocking it with alligators." The words of Senator Sherrod Brown.

AMY GOODMAN: Well, to talk more about the election of Donald Trump, his cabinet picks, and much more, we're joined by Cornel West, Professor Emeritus at Princeton University. During the Democratic primary, he endorsed Bernie Sanders. After Hillary Clinton won the nomination, West made headlines when he endorsed Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein. Welcome back to Democracy Now! It's great to have you with us.

CORNEL WEST: I just thank God for Democracy Now! because journalism is almost dead as we move into this neofascist age. And thank god you all are still willing to tell the truth.

AMY GOODMAN: Well, your response to the election of Donald Trump and now the cabinet he is appointing around him?

CORNEL WEST: Well, I think he's already betrayed working people in terms of making sure, in his view, that Wall Street is in the driver's seat. And what I mean by that is that in an emerging neofascist moment, you have the rule of big business, which is big banks and big corporations. You scapegoat the most vulnerable. It could be Muslims, Mexicans, gay brothers, lesbian sisters, indigenous peoples, black peoples, jews, and so on. And then you also have militaristic orientations around the world. And so, you see the extension of the repressive apparatus, as those of us who hit the streets, those of us who will be — are willing to go to jail, we've had to recognize we'll have more coming at us under Trump administration. But, the crucial thing is, is that he had talked about his connection with working people. And it's clear that the one percent are still running things.

NERMEEN SHAIKH: But, you've also said, Dr. West, you just said that his administration will be neofascist. Could you explain? What do you mean by that, neofascist as opposed to fascist, and what the two mean?

CORNEL WEST: What neofascist — it's an American style form of fascism. What I mean by that is we've had neoliberal rule from Carter to Obama. That neoliberal rule left in place a national security state. It left in place massive surveillance. It left in place the ability of the president to kill an American citizen with no due process. That's Obama. That was the culmination of the neoliberal era. Now you get someone who is narcissistic — which is to say out of control psychologically — who is ideologically confused — which is to say, in over his head — and who does he choose? The most right wing reactionary zealots which lead toward the arbitrary deployment of law, which is what neofascism is, but to reinforce corporate interests, big bank interest, and to keep track of those of us who are cast as peoples of color, women, jews, Arabs, Muslims, Mexicans, and so forth, and so — So, this is one of the most frightening moments in the history of this very fragile empire and fragile republic.

AMY GOODMAN: So, I want to talk about some of the picks of Donald Trump, like President-elect Donald Trump's treasury secretary, Steven Mnuchin, deep ties to Wall Street including working as a partner for Goldman Sachs, where his father also worked. Mnuchin's hedge fund also played a role in the housing crisis after it scooped up the failing California bank IndyMac in 2008. Under Mnuchin's ownership, IndyMac foreclosed on 36,000 families, particularly elderly residents trapped in reverse mortgages. People would go to Mnuchin's home to protest outside as they were foreclosed out of their own homes. Mnuchin was accused of running a foreclosure machine. The bank, which was renamed One West, was also accused of racially discriminatory lending practices. In 2015 Mnuchin sold a bank for $3.4 billion, $1.8 billion more than he bought it for.

CORNEL WEST: This is what you call spiritual blackout. There is a level of callousness. There's a level of indifference toward poor and working people. Preoccupation with greed and most importantly, lack of accountability. Doing anything they can do unless, in the end, they get caught by the law, and of course, oftentimes they have already disproportionately influenced those who apply the laws, those who supposed to be regulating them. And so, this is another instance of Wall Street run amok. I mean, I, and some of us were very critical [indiscernible] and others, very critical of Geithner, Summers, the Ruben crowd straight out of Wall Street when brother Barack Obama moved into the White House.

AMY GOODMAN: Summers, who you knew well because he was president of Harvard when you were there a professor there —

CORNEL WEST: Absolutely.

AMY GOODMAN: — and got in a bit of an altercation with him.

CORNEL WEST: Bless his soul. But — so that you can see on the neoliberal rule, Wall Street's still in the driver seat. We were hoping, with brother Bernie Sanders, that we could bring the neoliberal era to a close. And by neoliberal, what I mean is, when you see a social problem, you financialize, you privatize, and militarize. You get mass incarceration on the one hand, privatize schools — I know sister Diane Ravitch, on of the great prophetic voices of our time, in this regard will talk about this later — and then you militarize, which is to say drop bombs on seven Muslim countries and then wonder why Muslims are upset. Or you drop bombs on innocent children with U.S. drones and then wonder why the gangsters, the fascists coming out of the Muslim world, are organizing. And of course, we've got to be anti-fascist across the board. But this is going to be the most trying of times in our lifetime. There's no doubt about it. And at 63 years old, I am thoroughly fortified for this fight. I will tell you that.

NERMEEN SHAIKH: Well, given that people who voted for Trump and continuing with what you said, many have questioned how Trump, who after all is a billionaire born into a wealthy family, how did he become a working class hero so widely perceived among the people who voted for him as someone outside of the American economic and political elite class?

CORNEL WEST: Well, a significant number of those who voted for Trump were actually working people, middle-class people, who are looking for a way out given the fact they're losers under neoliberal globalization. And they tilted toward Bernie Sanders, but the Democratic Party and its neoliberal regime marginalized him and us. And so, the only alternative is this pseudo-populist billionaire with these narcissistic sensibilities and fascist — neofascist proclivities. And he presented himself as caring for their situation. And so, that economic insecurity, that economic neglect is very real. There's no doubt about that. And it's disproportionate white brothers and sisters, but they are suffering. And it was a cry of the heart.

Unfortunately, given the right-wing populist and the authoritarian orientation of Trump, he uses that kind of anguish to scapegoat Mexicans, Muslims, and others rather than confront the most powerful — 21 percent of those who voted for Trump do not like him, but they feel as if they had no alternative. And we have to keep in mind 42 percent of our fellow citizens didn't go to the polls at all. Already given up on the system, you see. And so, the system itself is, now, is in such a chronic crisis. And we said before the election that Trump would be a neofascist catastrophe. And it's very clear from his picks that he is moving in that direction.

AMY GOODMAN: I want to turn to Bernie Sanders. We had the first extensive hour with Bernie after the election. I spoke to him Monday night at the Free Library. We played it Tuesday. He spoke about how he hopes to reform the Democratic Party as the new chair. Well, it's a new position called the outreach position. He's now in the Senate Democratic leadership. Even if he is an independent socialist. This is Bernie Sanders.

SEN. BERNIE SANDERS: The new approach, I think, is to, a, create a fifty state strategy. That means we start playing ball in states that the Democrats have conceded decades ago. But, more importantly, we create a kind of grassroots party where the most important people in the party are not just wealthy campaign contributors, but working people, young people, people in the middle class who are going to come in and going to start telling us what their needs are and give us some ideas as to how we go forward. And I accept this responsibility as outreach chair with a lot of trepidation, but also with excitement. I'm going to be going around the country to try to do everything that I can to create a party which represents working people and not just the one percent.

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n the wake of Donald Trump's election victory over Hillary Clinton, some progressives are now pushing a shake up of the Democratic Party's leadership in efforts to reform the party. But Dr. Cornel West says he doubts the Democratic Party can be reformed. During the Democratic primary, West endorsed Bernie Sanders. Sanders later picked him to serve on the Democratic platform committee. After Hillary Clinton won the nomination, West made headlines when he endorsed Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein. For more we speak with West about the Democratic Party and what organizing looks like in the wake of the election.

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AMY GOODMAN: So, a lot of questions, and I encourage people to watch the full hour at democracynow.org. You were a big supporter of Bernie Sanders. You served on the Democratic Platform Committee on behalf of Bernie Sanders. Do you think he's right to re— work on reforming the Democrats rather than focus on building a new party? He is leading a movement called our revolution. He has said we have to work with Donald in different ways. He says to the people who supported him. Elizabeth Warren, in the last day, has said she is not so clear she's going to be working with Donald Trump. I mean, very interesting when Barack Obama came in, Mitch McConnell made it clear they won't work with Obama at all. But, what are your thoughts on all of this, the inside/outside strategy?

CORNEL WEST: Well, I think there's going to be a lot of different responses. I have a deep love and respect for brother Bernie Sanders. I always will. I don't always agree with him. I'm not convinced that the Democratic Party can be reformed. I think it still has a kind of allegiance to a neoliberal orientation. It still has allegiance to Wall Street, the very victory of Nancy Pelosi is a sign that neoliberalism is still hegemonic in the party. I hope that Keith Ellison is able to present a challenge to it. But, my hunch is —

AMY GOODMAN: — as head of — if he makes it is head of the Democratic National Committee.

CORNEL WEST: If he's head of the DNC. But my hunch is the Democratic Party has simply run out of gas. I mean, this is a party that couldn't even publicly oppose TPPwhen we debated that in the Platform Committee. And that's just one small example. Couldn't stop — couldn't vote to stop Fracking, and so on. So, it's still so tied to big money.

AMY GOODMAN: Even though Hillary Clinton had changed her position, because of the pressure of Bernie Sanders on TPP?

CORNEL WEST: Exactly, and tight there in the debates, they got the word from the White House, we didn't want to embarrass the president. Embarrass the president? What about the poor and working people who are dealing with the suffering? Is that less important than embarrassing the president? And they were very clear about that. And I pushed and pushed and pushed. Here's somebody — they can't even talk about the Israeli occupation honestly. The president uses a language in 2009, they can't use it in the platform. Why? Because they tied to the lobby, they tied to AIPAC. So that, when you have those kinds of restraints on you, these albatrosses around your neck, how are you going to be a party for the people? How you going to be a party for working people, poor people. How you going to be a party for those brothers and sisters in Yemen who are dealing with U.S.-supported troops and bombs killing them, mediated with Saudi Arabian government? How you going to deal with the Palestinians, deal with the Israeli occupation? How you going to deal with Africans, the expansion of AFRICOM, and so forth? There has to be some integrity and moral consistency. And unfortunately, the Democratic Party just strikes me as not being able to meet that challenge. But, I'll work with brother Bernie Sanders and others both out of love and because I know in his heart he's got a certain deep commitment to working people. But now, even as an independent socialist, he's behaving as a New Deal liberal.

AMY GOODMAN: What does that mean?

CORNEL WEST: That means that he is a — well, a Democratic Socialist is a radical who's critical of the system. A New Deal liberal works within the system and doesn't want to bring massive critique for structural change. And I can understand it because he's inside. But those of us who are outside and free, we're going to tell the truth. We're going to be honest. We will have certain kind of moral and spiritual integrity. And no matter how marginal that makes us, we're not, in any way, going to become well-adjusted to this injustice out here.

Amnesty International is calling on the U.S. Justice Department to investigate the violent police crackdown against Native American water protectors and their allies fighting the $3.8 billion Dakota Access Pipeline at Standing Rock in North Dakota. The call comes after Amnesty sent a delegation of human rights observers to witness the crackdown, which has including police using rubber bullets, tear gas, concussion grenades, sound cannons, water cannons in subfreezing temperatures, and other military-style weapons that have injured hundreds of people. We speak to Dr. Cornel West about why he is soon heading out to Standing Rock to show solidarity.

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AMY GOODMAN: So, you're headed to North Dakota this weekend, which is a major weekend because December 5 is the date that the Army Corps of Engineers set, saying that people must leave the area — although, the state authorities, and even the local authorities, have said they are not going to move in on the land to arrest people. It's very complicated messages that are coming out right now. Clearly, President Obama is involved with this. He visited the Standing Rock tribe in 2014 — and that's rare for an American president to go to a reservation — so he knows his case well. He was the one to issue that unprecedented three-agency order from Interior, Justice and Army saying that they are — will hold off on granting the permit. But, where do they stand now? They have not said they will not grant this permit.

CORNEL WEST: Well, I mean President Obama, he specializes in symbolic gestures because he gives pretty speeches. He's very brilliant, he's very charismatic. But, when, in terms of — when in comes time to implement and execute on the ground, often times he's — there's a deficit there. We'll see whether he comes through.

AMY GOODMAN: So what are you going to do there?

CORNEL WEST: I'm just going down to show my love and solidarity. I was invited by — I was honored to be invited by the elders, as you know of 200 nations. This is the biggest coming together since the 19th century for indigenous peoples' struggles. And I just come as a brother, as a comrade to be in solidarity with them and I go there and follow instructions. I want to be a force for good there in that context.

AMY GOODMAN: And after that, January, you're going to be teaching back at Harvard. What are you going to be teaching? What are you becoming a professor of?

CORNEL WEST: Teach a course as the professor of the practice of public philosophy. I mean, it's amazing. It's very kind of them to invite me back, I must say.

NERMEEN SHAIKH: Explain what that means, to be a professor of public philosophy.

CORNEL WEST: Well, it means simply to engage in a truth telling and an analysis of structures and institutions, and try to shape souls and characters of young people in such a way that they are willing to take stands on issues that has as much to do with the destiny of both this nation and the world. But, it's a robust, uninhibited dialogue, because you've got conservative interests, liberals, radicals, and so forth there. But I'll be teaching with Roberto Unger at the law school. I'll be at the divinity school teaching with Du Bois. And thank god brother Larry Bobo, and Skip Gates, and the others were kind enough to invite me back, as well. So, I look forward to being in the Boston area. It's not my favorite part of the country. I'm from California. But, I know you know whole lot about Harvard — She's a graduate. She's a graduate, too.

AMY GOODMAN: In this last-minute, in this last minute, Fidel Castro?

CORNEL WEST: Yeah, brother Castro. Good God, his solidarity with struggles in Africa, with —- historically -—

AMY GOODMAN: Did you ever meet him?

CORNEL WEST: I never met him. I went to Cuba and I was characterized as a counterrevolutionary with a smile because I called for the rotation of elites. I'm a radical democrat, democratic socialist. I believe that leaders ought to rotate. So, I called for the rotation of elites, and they pulled me in the palace. What are you talking about? This is critique. Oh yeah, I'm critical, absolutely. But at the same time, I salute the health system. I salute the education. I salute the fact that he stood up in the face of American imperial power, 630 assassination attempts, fought back against the Bay of Pigs and affirmed, most importantly, the greatness of the Cuban people. They suffered under Batista. And they did suffer under Castro in terms of his repression of dissenting voices. But at the same time, they now emerge powerful again. And I think it's a magnificent history of the Cuban people. But, Castro was always, for me, been a fascinating figure, heroic figure. But, still, I was very critical of the — of repression and not rotating, not having the kind of turnover in leadership that I would have liked to see. But, he's one of the great revolutionary Communists of the 20th century, and, as a revolutionary Christian, I love him.

AMY GOODMAN: Well, on that note, I want to thank you for being with us. Dr. Cornel West, Professor Emeritus at Princeton University. Thanks so much for joining us. This is Democracy Now! 

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